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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Sep 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames: On Johnny Gaudreau & Kris Russell
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Sep 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
Sign Johnny!
Say no to Russell!

Simple!
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
Sign Johnny!
Say no to Russell!

Simple!

- geta02it


Bridge Johnny
Sign Russell
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Sep 19 @ 2:44 PM ET
Bridge deal wouldn't be the worst.
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 19 @ 3:06 PM ET
Bridge deal wouldn't be the worst.
- Hunkulese

Somebody in Quebec who knows this man personally, please slap the stupid out of him for this comment, thx.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Sep 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
Somebody in Quebec who knows this man personally, please slap the stupid out of him for this comment, thx.
- Flamin_Irishmin


Because you know exactly how much Gaudreau is asking for and how he'll perform over the next decade.

If he's willing to be reasonable and sign a long term deal around 7.5 million, that's great. If he's asking for 9 or 10 million a year, the Flames really can't take that risk and a bridge deal is a better option.
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
Bridge Johnny
Sign Russell

- DDM-Coga


You just worry about stuffing hogies in your face and giving people stupid songs to have stuck in your head. (I swear I'm going to kill you for that "sweet Caroline" sh1t)
Flames in 6 04
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.15.2007

Sep 19 @ 3:22 PM ET
Because you know exactly how much Gaudreau is asking for and how he'll perform over the next decade.

If he's willing to be reasonable and sign a long term deal around 7.5 million, that's great. If he's asking for 9 or 10 million a year, the Flames really can't take that risk and a bridge deal is a better option.

- Hunkulese



Agree 100%. Need a bigger sampling than two years. Having players like Pat Kane talk about what kind of special talent he is doesn't help at the negotiation table mind you.
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Sep 19 @ 3:36 PM ET
Because you know exactly how much Gaudreau is asking for and how he'll perform over the next decade.

If he's willing to be reasonable and sign a long term deal around 7.5 million, that's great. If he's asking for 9 or 10 million a year, the Flames really can't take that risk and a bridge deal is a better option.

- Hunkulese


Bridge deals always lead to a player getting more in the long run, plus the fact he should be and eligible UFA after the bridge deal(?), so just bite the bullet now and get the long term contract done. Then there are no worries for the next 6-7 years. I am a little pissed at GM BT for not getting this contract done and signed before the worlds, and I know I kept harping on it, but Johnnys going to bank an extra 500k + a season with his stellar World Cup play. Usually appreciate your input Hunk, but a bridge deal doesn't favor the Flames organization IMO.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Sep 19 @ 3:54 PM ET
Bridge deals always lead to a player getting more in the long run, plus the fact he should be and eligible UFA after the bridge deal(?), so just bite the bullet now and get the long term contract done. Then there are no worries for the next 6-7 years. I am a little pissed at GM BT for not getting this contract done and signed before the worlds, and I know I kept harping on it, but Johnnys going to bank an extra 500k + a season with his stellar World Cup play. Usually appreciate your input Hunk, but a bridge deal doesn't favor the Flames organization IMO.
- Flamin_Irishmin


The point of a bridge deal isn't to take them to unrestricted free agency. The Flames own his rights for 5 more years, so a bridge deal would be something like 3. He gets a more team friendly contract for 3 years and then has to prove he's worth the massive payday he wants.

Since there's been nothing leaked about Gaudreau's contract demands, you can't really be pissed at either side. If he's demanding 9 or 10 million, can you really be pissed at Treliving for balking at that?

A bridge deal isn't idea, but, again, if he wants 10 million a season, he's going to have to cement himself as a top 5 player over the next few years in order for the Flames to end up having to pay him more than that.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 19 @ 3:56 PM ET
You just worry about stuffing hogies in your face and giving people stupid songs to have stuck in your head. (I swear I'm going to kill you for that "sweet Caroline" sh1t)
- Flamin_Irishmin


The Vengabus is coming, And everybody's jumping, New York to San Fransisco
We like to party...we like we like to party
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 19 @ 5:04 PM ET
7 years 7.35 per year ....that's my guess
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 19 @ 5:05 PM ET
The point of a bridge deal isn't to take them to unrestricted free agency. The Flames own his rights for 5 more years, so a bridge deal would be something like 3. He gets a more team friendly contract for 3 years and then has to prove he's worth the massive payday he wants.

Since there's been nothing leaked about Gaudreau's contract demands, you can't really be pissed at either side. If he's demanding 9 or 10 million, can you really be pissed at Treliving for balking at that?

A bridge deal isn't idea, but, again, if he wants 10 million a season, he's going to have to cement himself as a top 5 player over the next few years in order for the Flames to end up having to pay him more than that.

- Hunkulese


Eric Francis has mentioned that the flames want something like 6.3 per year and Johnny wants 8
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Sep 19 @ 5:12 PM ET
7 years 7.35 per year ....that's my guess
- Redmile247


Heard flames don't want to go above Gio's 6.75.

Johnny maybe no hockey for a while.
Helios
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 08.11.2016

Sep 19 @ 6:25 PM ET
The "Gio Cap" has been a rumour for a while, though so far there is nothing to suggest that it's actually a thing. Monahan's contract is about what everyone was expecting with or without the Gio thing.

I read somewhere that Gaudreau's agent was asking for $9 million (though for the life of me I can't find where), in which case it's no wonder Treliving has taken his time. Johnny isn't a $8 million a year player yet, let alone 9.

I fully expect the deal to be around 7-7.5 a year for 6 or 7 years when all is said and done, which is completely reasonable.
jexponent3
Location: AB
Joined: 07.08.2013

Sep 19 @ 6:28 PM ET
Heard from a flames staffer that Johnny wants to play near his hometown, and so doesn't want a long term deal. IF they are as far apart on both money and term as is rumoured, I'm starting to not really liking the odds he gets signed.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Sep 19 @ 6:33 PM ET
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Sep 19 @ 6:34 PM ET
Heard from a flames staffer that Johnny wants to play near his hometown, and so doesn't want a long term deal. IF they are as far apart on both money and term as is rumoured, I'm starting to not really liking the odds he gets signed.
- jexponent3


I heard from your mom that you've been a bad boy.

OG5
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Sep 19 @ 6:50 PM ET
Heard from a flames staffer that Johnny wants to play near his hometown, and so doesn't want a long term deal. IF they are as far apart on both money and term as is rumoured, I'm starting to not really liking the odds he gets signed.
- jexponent3

Ek is that you? Those damn trusted sources...
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Sep 19 @ 6:51 PM ET
The Vengabus is coming, And everybody's jumping, New York to San Fransisco
We like to party...we like we like to party

- DDM-Coga

Party rock is in the house tonight (oh)
Everybody just have a good time (I can feel it baby!)
And we gonna make you lose your mind (yeah)
We just wanna see you... shake that!

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 19 @ 7:13 PM ET
Heard flames don't want to go above Gio's 6.75.

Johnny maybe no hockey for a while.

- Iggysbff


They were hoping to get him under gio's hit but I think it's doubtful ...wishful thinking on your part
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Sep 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
Party rock is in the house tonight (oh)
Everybody just have a good time (I can feel it baby!)
And we gonna make you lose your mind (yeah)
We just wanna see you... shake that!


- geta02it


I'm too sexy for my shirt. So sexy it hurts.

I'm a model. You know what I mean I do my little turn on the catwalk.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Sep 19 @ 8:48 PM ET
Hopefully we'll just get Giordano signed, everyone will have their opinion of whether the cap hit sucks or not, and it won't be news anymore. He can't possibly get paid the 9 million he's asking for.

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Sep 19 @ 10:06 PM ET
Well we still have Bouma!
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Sep 19 @ 11:49 PM ET
I'm too sexy for my shirt. So sexy it hurts.

I'm a model. You know what I mean I do my little turn on the catwalk.

- Iggysbff


Because you asked for Iggster...

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